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prayers & request of the empu ("alas permintaan empu") 
acc. to Pak M. pamor "tidak dapat kelihatan tetapi dapat dirasakan dengan kelatinan" ("cannot be seen but can be magically felt")
acc. to M. handles & sheaths can be bought in the large market ((Beringharjo)) in Jogja, and type bought depends or request of person who has ordered the blade 
((probably means Pak M. not making lot quality knives)) 
Pak. M. doesn't know names of persons who sell handles or sheaths
if gold or other ornaments applied done by the person who ordered the kris after Pak M. already hands over, so Pak M. doesn't know who or where ornamenting done. 
-acc. to M. no other pamor krismakers in G.K. ((can't take this for truth - Kajar people seem to be given to bragging))
-when make a kris use a 


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usual perapen
use 2 helpers, and doesn't matter much who since the science is with the empu
3 types of iron used in krises:

-. WAJA LANDHEP : for sharpness
-. PAMOR YUWANA : for pamor
-. WESI MANDI : for both sharpness + pamor

when pay for iron, pay cash in full
-the American who ordered paid 15,000 Rp. 
M. besides making krises also made farm tools all his life; doesn't anymore because of his age 
can still makes krises, but seldom gets an order now
-K.I. besides being a krismaker was also an expert in "Ilmu Kebathinan" - or "inner science"
-acc. to M. is a drought in Kajar twice every 8 years, but occasionally can go as long as 16 yrs. w/out a drought 
-in the past 10 years the sumber air have only been dry once, ie last year