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60 3 years gotten BRI loans of 100,000 Rp each Pak Buang helped him get these loans & apparently money divided among the family, not for Pak K's work place only. Pak K owns 2 sapi, no other livestock - acc. to Pak Buang these used as "klangenan" [[scratched out]] (for fun, pleasure) & not used in fields owns own well, 12M prices: small horse: 500 Rp large garuda: 2000 Rp once got an order for a naga 2M. long for 25,000 Rp flower vases: 300 - 500 Rp ((if we take 1000Rp as an average figure this means sales of Rp 100,000 per month)) acc. to Buang figures in stores will be sold for 3x (Semarang) to 6x ((Jakarta) these prices. - most people in Kas. go to private doctors & very few use dukuns (tinggal sedikit sekali) - kiln, acc. to Buang, not useable + buildings constructed not turned over to pengrajin yet - people don't want to use 61 workshop because located in another kalurahan (Tirtonismo- lo) acc. to Buang (who dominated last half of this interview) most of sales to Indonesians and about 35% only to foreigners -wages of Pupuk: paid per piece as follows small figure 250 Rp large " 500-1000 Rp acc. to Buang he earns 500 or more per day - black figures double-fired - acc. to Buang impossible to control heat well enough to avoid fire clouds - not many pengrajin in Kas. who receive a wage, acc. to Buang ("belum banyak") - Pak K. has a radio, no TV (Pak Buang has a TV however) -acc. to Buang market better this year than last because are new styles - people who have the old styles are coming back + buying more figures in the new styles - new styles from their own imagination