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I pengrajin can make a small horse in a day
Pak Sidal has been making ceramics for over 20 years, both his parents were pengrajin before 1972 only made plain celengan
Pak Sidal has never attended any courses, nor his pengrajin either; has never lived in city 
- firing twice a month, about 30 pieces at a time
uses wood 1000 Rp on 2 bicycle loads each firing 
uses daun bamboo & jerami (damen-rice straw) 1000 Rp or 5 bicycle loads each firing
- best wood kayce petai cina [[strikethrough]]  (mlanding), best leaves bamboo - these are best because give hottest fire
I asked about teakwood, but he laughed & said it was of course good but too expensive
- when firing he uses 2 of his own pengrajin to help but they are then called "buruh bokar" and paid 500 Rp each
- pembakaran takes 6 hours from time of initial preparation 


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("dari mulai onto" nata) until pieces are cool and can be put away actual firing about 3 hrs
- wages paid per piece at 250 Rp per small figure, 500 Rp - 1000 Rp for larger figure Sidal says a pengrajin earns about 250 a day paid once every two weeks
- normal working hours 7-4, but if any entertainment ("hiburan") such as a soccer game they quit early, maybe 2:00
never work evenings or nights
- uses 2Q of clay @ 500 Rp per months
goes and picks up himself at Bibis; 2Q clay mixed with 1Q pasir, taken from the river, under the bridge in 1973 Sidal organized 35 people to rent clay land in Bibis as a group (secara rombongan) - land rented for 25,000 and each person who put in could take as much clay as he needed - did this for half a year but Sidal quit because