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page 28 gilingan or rice hulling is 200Rp per KW or 2 Rp per kilo-gilingan keeps the KATUL or germ - real profit for gilingan comes from selling the germ for chicken feed eat 1/2 K per day for maro Pak Hadi provides all inputs -buy 15 K bibit a season, 150 Rp per K - buy at Godean -buy 10 K urea @ 75 TS 1 K @ 75 -use no insecticide -no harvest between 75-78 and lived from ker only -yet they say farming is pokok -farm tools: 1 pacul 1 setrip (shovel) 1 arit 1 plancong (he often is asked to cut down trees - a large axe) 1 gergaii 1 petel (small axe) they also buyih tani on other people's land: Pak Hadi paculs +/- 2 days and matuns +/- 7 days a season