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used agel- lontar, a plant fiber- was not grown in Troso but brought in from another area
(( what advantages/disadv. does plastic raffia have over agel?))
- formerly the production of Troso was a small-motif ikat sarong, disambung up the middle, with a motif in the style of Gresik, with East Java influence are still one or two persons making this Gresik - style cloth (we saw several examples), with, however, bright [[strikethrough]] m [[strikethrough]] napthal dyes; I asked if anyone had an old cloth from the time when vegetable dyes were used, but are none left in the village.
the one or two persons still making the Gresik type cloth sell to the local market (Semarang)
- gold thread is made in Japan- also sold in Pasar Kleweh, but not imported by Kin Tai
last season, when they had very large orders for gold stripe cloth, it became hard to get enough gold thread from Pasar Kleweh & Pak Jamil (?) had to send them additional supplies of gold 
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thread from Den Pasar
- if making gold stripe cloth need 15 kelos gold thread per 11 pak rayon & this enough to keep one ATBM busy for a month
- price per kelos of gold thread is Rp 1000
-if making white cloth usual dentage is 48 ("dengan sisir 48") & usual [[strikethrough]] with [[strikethrough]] width is 140 cm -  cloth sells for 525 per meter
- if making Bali cloth usual dentage is 52, width 120 cm -  1 pak makes 20 meters Bali cloth which sells for 700 Rp per meter
- if making Sumba cloth usual dentage is 48x2 (in other words, 2 threads to a dent  = 96), width 120 cm
Sumba cloth, since has fringes, is sold by the piece, not by the yard - one piece is 2 1/2 meters long & sells for Rp 4000 if not seamed up the middle & Rp.3750 if seamed up the middle-
for 1 pak [[strikethrough]] g [[strikethrough]]
[[margin note]] I think Sumba cloth is all cotton[[margin note]] rayon get 5 Sumba cloths 
-ATMBs are made in the village
-Edy's notes say reeds are made