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under ground Dinas Per gave 2 yr. credit to buy now 1965 he is a nasabah, 1st time 300,000 stock bunengan slmua INTERVIEW PIWWIL JOGJA masadah: 2 juta before from KUP: Pinwil says too small for investments a tempe enterprise which needs a lot costing 500,000 dimasilk m.k. because too small masyarakat doesn't understand inv & exp - minta m.k. staff BRI don't understand. spread - only see difference in interest they say investasi = mesin; hand