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noises cary I mean his house who also have ponds, but more in the kamping kolam men house his pond 20 tumlak = 280M2 water is [deletion] taken from tertiary investigation canal sawah 100 tumbak = 1400 M2 warisan pekaragan + pond bought 15 years ago he farms own sawah adds labor for certain times, 5 or 6 at most; wife helps children only help at harvest 3 X panen paddy only polowigo if paddy fails- then bawaing