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{SPEAKER name="Norman Thomas"}

and I know your general position and I'm glad you've made it plain.

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I like open meetings.

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One of my troubles is that I talk too often to the already almost converted, [[laughter]]

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and that's not so good.

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So, I welcome the gentlemen.

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[[background voice 1]]
Another question.

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[[background voice 2]]
No, I was going to say I think the young man should also bear in mind,

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that even in the area, the Georgia area,

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the division of jobs and securing of jobs for Negros didn't come automatically,

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[[Cross Talk]]

[[background voice 2]]
well I think that it implies that the Defense Department

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had been great forerunner and [[carried?]] unequal employment,

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that led up [[??]].

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This is the truth.

[[Speaker 1]]
No, I was misquoted. I do not believe this is the only area, I'm saying why exclude this area,

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when this is an area that has been [[??]] everywhere.

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{SPEAKER name="Norman Thomas"}
well there not real [[??]] of facts, let's go on.

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[[background voice 1]]
I have given you ample time, so can we get another question over there.

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Question.

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[[background voice 3]]
I'd like to ask Mr. Thomas what suggestions he might have made

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regarding the old [[??]] civil rights organisations,

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I don't want to name names ( -- )

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that, almost insist on converting themselves into enemies,

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of the Civil Rights Movement as it is today,

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or at least [[??]] the rest of them?

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{SPEAKER name="Norman Thomas"}
No, I think you're kind of putting me in a spot I don't want to be in.

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Let me say this.

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If, If you want me to come as a white man, an old man

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not intimately connected with all that's happening

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and, begin to say that some organisations in the Negro appeal are wrong and some are right,

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I'm not gonna do it. I think it would be a presumptuous thing for me to do,

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and I have lived long enough to find that you need cooperation of organisations

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in peace for instance,

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that don't agree all together,

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some of which I like much better than others.

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But, there are all kinds of people in the world and and there all kinds of ways

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