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Transcription: [00:38:46]
{SPEAKER name="James Baldwin"}
A White man is a White man if he says he is.

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[[laughter]]

[00:38:52]
He is a White man if he thinks he is.
You know, he is a White man if he thinks he is doing something for Negros.

[00:38:59]
But you haven't got to be White, the present role of the White man in the movement, is obviously none as long as he's White.

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[[applause, laughter]]

[00:39:23]
{SPEAKER name="James Baldwin"}
But do you see what I mean? I'm not trying to be, I'm not trying to be, uh--

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[[laughter]]

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[[crowd noises]]
[[coughing]]

[00:39:39]
{SPEAKER name="unknown speaker 1"}
But Mr. Baldwin, well you could turn the coin around on the other side and equally say that the place of the Negro is not that of a Negro, but a human being seeking human dignity.

[00:39:48]
{SPEAKER name="James Baldwin"}
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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[[applause]]
[[coughing]]

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{SPEAKER name="unknown speaker 2"}
Mr. Baldwin?

[00:40:04]
{SPEAKER name="James Baldwin"}
Yes.

[00:40:07]
{SPEAKER name="unknown speaker 2"}
The really important thing when this movement ends, daily everyday life, and I'm sure many field secretaries as myself have been beginning to hear the winds of violence blowing gently and seeing Muslims catching on, especially in law.

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I can hear your comment on the positive actions that I can counter some of those programs, actually what are they about, and how do you account for some of the things that, uh, you're beginning to hear out there in the field, especially violence?

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{SPEAKER name="James Baldwin"}
Mmm. Well to tell you the truth my friend, there you and I meet. I mean I know what you are talking about. I am very aware of it and exactly how you counter it, I really do not know. I really don't. No, I am not trying to cop out.

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[[laughter]]

[00:40:54]
{SPEAKER name="James Baldwin"}
I really do not know partly because, partly because it is not really entirely either up to you or me. It is up to other forces in this country, which you and I do not and cannot now control. You know?

[00:41:08]
I can understand very easily how any Negro adolescent can be driven to the edge of despair and further than that. And there is very little truthfully

Transcription Notes:
40:21 unsure of first part of the phrase up until 'programs'.