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{SPEAKER name="James Baldwin"}

The price the country will pay. The price a white woman and a white man, and a white boy and a white girl

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will have to pay, in themselves, before they can look on me, as though I was simply another human being.

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This metamorphosis is what one's driving towards.

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Because without that, we really will perish.

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We really will be locked in such dissension, that we will be paralyzed, as indeed we almost are now.

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The internal dissension in this country has really had a terrifying effect everything we've done in the world.

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And as it not a lot, we are not able to look out, we are not able to envision anything because we're in locked in civil war.

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Now, of course, the ways in which one begins to achieve the liberation of a country, are always a little, have to be,

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awkward and disturbing.

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And any one, single aspect of this problem, if you think about jobs, the question of jobs and freedom.

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Well, the first thing you're confronted with, really, is that the economy itself right now,

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can't employ all the white people.

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And in my view, one of the reasons for this.

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One of the reasons, I am deliberately not talking about the fantastic nuclear stockpile, which is costing us so much money.

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One of the reasons for this, is that a great deal of energy, of the energy of this economy goes into creating things nobody needs and nobody wants.

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And everybody has to buy because everyone buys them.

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Nobody needs a new car every year.

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It doesn't really matter what kind of toothpaste you use, you know,

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[[laughter]]

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These things are not important.

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But, in order for me to get a job, and it's true even if I don't say so.

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In order for me to get a job-