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126 Helicopter Air Service Program or to expect or to urge the trunklines who benefit from this helicopter service, people going to and from the International Airport, this widely scattered area, contributing a part of their earnings to the subsidization of the helicopter line? Mr. Dyal. Yes, Mr. Chairman. Senator Monroney. You know your council is very vital on this. Certainly this Committee on Commerce, the Aviation Subcommittee of the Senate, or the independent Offices Appropriation Subcommittee of the Senate, or the Commerce Committee of the House, none of these three committees have advocated the abandonment of the helicopter service. But the one committee of the House, the House Appropriations Committee, has purported to prohibit any further appropriations after this year. These, by the President's budget, would be terminated by the first of the year 1966. Therefore, it is going to take some rather strong medicine to secure the votes necessary in the House, and I expect in the Senate, to continue past the date that the President's Budget Bureau has recommended. It would be very helpful indeed if the long trunklines could be persuaded some way to carry a portion of this heavy load which the Federal Government has carried almost in its entirety. Do you agree? Mr. Dyal. Yes, I believe it would be helpful if they could, Senator Monroney. I do believe, Senator, that we must recognize this. Regardless, however, whether they do or not, our Government has a tremendous stake in this operation, and I hope that my colleagues will join me this time in these committee appearances on the House side and correct some of the impressions that were left at the last session. Senator Monroney. It would help indeed if those who favor the helicopter service would care to, and I am not trying to advise them what to do, or to encourage witnesses to appear before the House, but to express their support if there is support for this helicopter program when it is up in the House. Mr. Dyal. Thank you. I believe they will. Senator Monroney. I thank you very much for your courtesy of appearing, and again apologize for the lateness of the hour before we were able to hear you. Mr. Dyal. Thank you. Senator Monroney. Our next witness is Mr. W. Paul Thayer, president of the Ling-Temco-Vought Aerospace Corp., Grand Prairie, Tex. The chair is delighted to say that he witnessed a most spectacular flight in Texas, and went through the plane, watching it go through its various maneuvers in takeoff and landing, hovering a plane almost as big as an Electra above the airport and gradually tilting its wing and making the change from a helicopter into a fixed wing plane that could fly 300 miles an hour. I saw it go through its paces on a slow takeoff and landing, another of its characteristics. So, at this time, we are very happy to have here, to explain this plane, Mr. W. Paul Thayer, the president of the Aerospace Corp., the one which has done so much to bring about this plane. They will now unveil this great undertaking and show how the model looks when it is ready for flight. Mr. Thayer, you may proceed in your own way. I know you want to demonstrate this model and show the committee and the people
