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to be an observer" (T. 38). This demonstrated that a man over sixty could be a manager of flying and not have to fly on-line revenue flights himself. He further conceded that as far as procedure is concerned there is no difference in flying or ferrying an empty airplane or one full of passengers from Boston to Miami (T. 42). Thus, a ferry pilot under FAA rules could be over sixty and be performing the same job as an on-line revenue pilot. He admitted that up until 1960 when the FAA regulation went into effect Eastern had pilots flying the line over sixty years of age, and that "Eastern saw nothing wrong with keeping a pilot over sixty." (T. 47) And as far as an instructor being able to keep up his proficiency by his instruction flights alone without necessity of on-line revenue flights, Captain Halliburton admitted that the instructor's duties are deliberately calculated to create emergency situations and that this requires special skill: Q. But when you said you just make circles and are maneuvering; in fact, the instructor is doing more additional flying than a line pilot? A. Yes. Q. He is chopping engines part of the time? A. Yes. It requires a special skill. MR. SABLE: Would you define chopping? Ask it. Q. In order to simulate an emergency, it is common practice for pilots flying for Eastern and FAA who check the Eastern pilots to sometimes sharply reduce power on one or more engines to see if the pilot can continue to control the aircraft under adverse conditions? A. Right. Also the instructor receives flying experiences by handling -10-