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60 Halliburton - direct of their time -- MR. BAILEY: Flying time. MR. WEISS: You mean, as a passenger or as an operator? MR. BAILEY: On the flight deck. MR. WEISS: It is as an observer or the actual operation of the controls? MR. BAILEY: Yes. MR. WEISS: One or the other. MR. BAILEY: True. MR. WEISS: As long as we understand the question. MR. SABLE: Let me go back to the witness' analogy of an automobile. I think the witness pointed out that one instructing and driving an automobile would not be getting the same experience as if he were, himself, operating the automobile; isn't that what you said, Captain? THE WITNESS: I didn't intend it exactly that way, Mr. Sable. Mr. Bailey