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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
So the question is, how? How- maybe what does it look like, the intersection of the black community with immigration issues? Since, when we talk about immigration, it's often as if we are excluding black people. So what is the question [??]

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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
Uh, okay. Well, I think part of how you do it is, is, what- number one, be inclusive, having people like me on discussions like this. I think it's something that's largely, in my opinion, from outside of the black immigrant community and black communities. I think if I'm walking down the street, I grew up here in the United States, I'm very happy and I am, I identify as black, as do my parents and my family. I think that that not acknowledging black immigrants as immigrants is- how do I put it? Like, I grew up where I grew up as a housing discrimination, not necessarily because of anti-immigrant discrimination, but because in Austin it was very difficult for black families to get a home West of the highway. So I think, and I do work at an immigrant civil rights organization and uh, or a Latino civil rights organization that's very involved in immigration issues. when we talk about some of the things that I was saying, policing in communities, housing discrimination, quality education, I think it's, to be honest, more incumbent on the immigrants rights organizations to make sure they're inclusive of that? And then I would also- yeah I think it's more- I think it's more on the communities that are doing immigrants organizing to be sure to be inclusive of that, to talk about that then it is particularly on us to be visible. I always say I'm a first-generation American. I'm Black.

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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
So there's an assumption in the question. That there are people who are immigrants coming in and there's the white group of people. It is how you would define what is American, right? So you need to look at that assumption first. And in immigration policy and how you [??] that in actually separate is another issue.