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Service officials accompany them north on a trip to Colorado. In addition to our Superintendent of Education and myself, we had Mr. Alvin Warren, Supervisor of Education, and Mr. Abel Paisano, Chairman of the All-Pueblo Council. This gave the Congressional Committee an opportunity to receive firsthand views of a real Indian administrator and to discuss Indian problems with the representatives of the Pueblo Indians. It was indeed gratifying to hear Chairman Jensen and his committee comment on how pleased they were to have the opportunity, despite the usual Congressional rush through a jurisdiction, to meet with Indian representatives rather than just governmental officials. This is the way we shall carry on in the future. Let the Indian people present their problems direct.

Now let us look at the working of the Indian participation program within the Pueblos Agency organization. On staff committees sit representatives of the All-Pueblo Council. When such staff meetings are held on specific problems, representatives of the All-Pueblo Council are present. Every attempt is made to secure comments from the Indian representatives, to secure recommendations from Indian representatives. In other words, we in the Agency want to know how the Indians themselves feel on the various problems on which we work. We know the Indians themselves know more about their problems than we do and can give us a much clearer insight than we could ever hope to gain alone. Now let me give you a few illustrations. The United Pueblos Agency is organized into five major branches -- Administration, Education, Health, Resources, and Engineering. Please note how the All-Pueblo Council organized its committees paralleling this organization. Each of these branches is broken down into various divisions. In addition to this operational organization we have established several staff committees. We recognize that it is impossible to have proper coordination and proper program development without various staff committees working on various phases of the problems facing us here. The committees that have been set up in the Agency are divided as follows -- Staff, Advisory, and Planning, and Operational. The Staff Committee consists of the branch chiefs and principal division heads. The Advisory and Planning committees consist of (1) the division head committee; (2) the program planning committee, (3) the adult education committee, and (4) public relations committee. On each one of these there is a representative of the All-Pueblo Council and each committee consists of several Indian employees in addition to other Agency employees. Each of the committees is interested in a specific phase of the Agency program and each has an opportunity to hear from the Indians themselves. The Operational committees consist of such committees as the efficiency rating and appeal, the safety and transportation, etc. These have specific operational jobs. The general staff committee meets from time to time on specific problems on which decisions must be reached. As Superintendent, I do not feel that it is good administration to reach improperly considered decisions on major problems. A much wiser and a much better decision can be reacher after a staff conference with Agency officials and Indian representative. As I have repeatedly pointed out, when such meetings are called, representative of the All-Pueblo Council.