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LIEBES (CONT.): only one textile high school in this big city of millions of people? There is not enough instruction available...not enough people in the field. Fabrics are a fascinating subject...one to which more young girls should be drawn. They are woman's number-one aid in giving herself a background for her personality...in decorating a home...and providing beautiful, comfortable surroundings.

CRAIG: That's all true... Of course, really fine hand-woven fabrics are out of reach of families of modest incomes... That's why it's so wonderful that so many of your designs, Mrs. Liebes, are now in machine production... It's good to find a leading artist and craftsman production-conscious...

LIEBES: I got interested in machine production in 1941 when I began to create designs for the Goodall Company. Goodall takes my handwoven samples and reproduces them to the last thread and color.... It amazed me to find out how faithfully hand-woven fabrics could be copied by the machine looms.

CRAIG: It really makes available to people beautiful machine made fabrics which practically give the illusion of the actual handwoven materials....showing the hand of the master and the colors and the ideas that the artist creates....

LIEBES.... Yes....naturally. The important thing about handcrafts though is that there are patrons in this country who give us a chance of weaving by hand...creating new designs...of experimenting with different types of material... It sponsors creativeness... This has always been so in the history of art. There has to be a patron.

CRAIG: You've done so much in this field over the country...what about talent in the United States? Do you think there's a lot of it here?