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this. I think it [[strikethrough]] really [[/strikethrough]] merely portrays it. One would hardly look at my work and think that it wasn't satirical, I think, or that it made no comment. But I don't really think that I'm interested in making a social comment. I'm using...these aspects of our environment which I talked about, as subject matter, but I'm really interested in doing a painting, and...No doubt this has an indluence on my work somehow, but I'm not really sure what social message my art carries, if any. And I don't think I really want it to carry one. I think it might have some social message, but that's not really the part of it that interests me. 

Ques: But you're invloved in something. I mean you do bring something to it. I don't think it's right to say that you just want to make pictures.

Roy: No it isn't...it isn't abstract art and it isn't that I'm not interested in the subject matter. But I don't think I'm not interested in the subject matter...to try to...teach society anything, or to try to better our world in any way.

Ques: But you are brining a certain psychological state of mind to the work, Doesn't that have something to do with your feelings about our society? and I think that means ? .

Roy: Yes, I think it does have, I do bring a psychological state of mind about the society to the work, but I'm not really, I don't know that I can really say what that is. I think it's probably the lack of sensibilit[[strikethrough]]ies[[/strikethrough]]y, appearance, a lack of...of the...lack of refinement, lack of justment (?), the kind of...of immediate, not contemplative answers that society keeps giving us. I think this aspect is what I try to get into my work--as an appearance. I'm not interested in promoting it... but it's a stylistic appearance that I want my work to have. I think it gives it a kind of