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MW---I guess I can start by asking you when and how you became interested in Los Angeles modern architecture.

EM---I was very interested in architecture, during the war I had been working as an engineering draftsman on a postwar plane, C74, detailing wings and other parts of the plane. I worked there two years, decided to study architecture, and was discouraged at U.S.C. so I got a job, instead, with Schindler, who happened to need someone then. He always had very few people in his office. He preferred people who [[strikethrough]] were [[/strikethrough]] had not [[strikethrough]] out of [[/strikethrough]] worked in other offices.

MW---You mean [[strikethrough]] that [[/strikethrough]] ones who [[strikethrough]] does [[/strikethrough]] do not have professional experience in some other offices?

EM---Well, yes, especially in big offices. He liked students and it was very hard for him to get anyone then because everyone was going into the service. [[strikethrough]] So [[/strikethrough]] When I went into the office [[strikethrough]] and [[/strikethrough]] I was the only [[strikethrough]] one there then [[/strikethrough]] draftsman.

MW--When was this?

EM---I think it was about March or April 1944. He was [[strikethrough]] working a great deal [[/strikethrough]] doing a great deal of work then. Many houses and he was working on the last of the interiors of [[strikethrough]]the church [[/strikethrough]] Bethlehem Baptist Church. And the Laurelwood apartments which was a long time [[strikethrough]] being built there were things there that [[/strikethrough]] on the board. I worked on these and [[strikethrough]] I worked [[/strikethrough]] worked on two or three houses. [[strikethrough]] He usually, [[/strikethrough]] Before the war he had a lot of time for [[strikethrough]] his work,[[/strikethrough]] a job because there was so little work during the depression, the thirties. [[strikethrough]] But now he took [[/strikethrough]] In the forties he took everything and was working very hard. [[strikethrough]] To do in….,because [[/strikethrough]] Usually he made [[/strikethrough]] would have [[/strikethrough]] a rough plan [[strikethrough]] that he would make [[/strikethrough]] in 1/8”=1’-0” scale, and I [[strikethrough]] had to [[/strikethrough]] developed it in 1/4”=1’-0” scale. [[strikethrough]] I got used to his ways of work and [[/strikethrough]] I wrote the first article about him while I was there, for a [[strikethrough]] friend of mine who had a [[/strikethrough]] magazine, called Direction. 

MW---[[strikethrough]]Well so, when [[/strikethrough]] So you were working [[strikethrough]] at [[/strikethrough]] Schindler [[strikethrough]], that seems to me [[/strikethrough]] during the period when he [[strikethrough]]that Schindler's were [[/strikethrough]]was going into more personal style, or regional or expressionistic.

EM--[[strikethrough]] Expressionistic [[/strikethrough]] I would not say regional, because others were very much influenced by the region.


MW---Could you name some of the houses you [[strikethrough]] got [[/strikethrough]] involved in?

EM---Well, let's see… Toole house, that was in Palm Desert. [[strikethrough]] of [[/strikethrough]] the  Laurelwood apartments, the Felix Presburger house in north Hollywood, remodeling for Westby,