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[[strikethrough]] And Soriano -- is, he said that he -- that his interest in steel came from Neutra. He said when he worked in the Neutra office, Neutra was working with studs, wood studs. [[/strikethrough]] Q Soriano tailored longest. But when Soriano was in the Neutra office he was working with studs and plaster.

MW -- Yes, That's right, you said [[strikethrough]] that [[/strikethrough]] 4 x 4's.

EM -- Yes, 4 x 4's. [[strikethrough]] Yes. And so he [[/strikethrough]] Soriano said -- "I didn't learn from him how to build with steel, I learned how to handle 4 x 4's for the long span." [[strikethrough]] And then he told me the ways he was interested in, did become interested in steel. [[/strikethrough]] His mentors in steel were Fritz Rupple and [[strikethrough]] then [[/strikethrough]] two [[strikethrough]] other [[/strikethrough]] engineers.

MW -- OK. Well, as those three -- Harris, Ain and Soriano are obviously the second generation, so we'll talk about them later, and let's talk about Davidson just for a while.
What was Davidson's position? In the 30's. Because in your book [[strikethrough]] it's written [[/strikethrough]] you say he never had to look for clients. He had a lot of jobs, lot of shops even the depression period.

EM -- [[strikethrough]] Yes. [[/strikethrough]] He was not aggressive. There were always jobs of some sort. [[strikethrough]] But they weren't highly paying. [[/strikethrough]] They weren't large jobs. And they weren't highly paid. [[strikethrough]] They lived modestly, the Davidsons until the 50's [[/strikethrough]]

MW -- Was he able to get those commissions [[strikethrough]] because he was from Germany, and he could get commissions [[/strikethrough]] from his friends or from [[strikethrough]] European exiles? [[/strikethrough// German emigres?

EM -- It was word of mouth. [[strikethrough]] And [[/strikethrough]] Many [[strikethrough]] of them [[/strikethrough]] clients came from the art world, many came from the films, and even the Thomas Mann house came through the films.
The clients of the two houses in the palisades for the Kingsley were German refugees. [[strikethrough]] or Dutch refugees, I've forgotten which. [[/strikethrough]]

MW -- We should go into the younger three people: Harris, Ain and Soriano.

EM -- Harris comes more out of the wood tradition of the inland California.

MW -- Yes, that's right. He's different from the other two.
It also seems to me that Harris was able to use different styles than others.

EM -- Yes, he was. Yes, he changed. He went into sort of a FLW romanza period in Texas.

MW -- Like that house that looks a little bit like the Barnsdall house.