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5 HF No, I often try to think--how does this happen--because one always wants to repeat a magic moment and I think it was that I was so involved and so sort of in lovewith the idea and so sort of blindly and unself-consciously going ahead--and so committed and enjoying it--it wasn't suffering--it was serious fun. And I think the way one hits a breakthrough or discovers something for ones self is never to go to the studio--I've got work--I'm [[strikethrough]] [[?]] [[/strikethrough]] breaking through. But--a combination of mood and work and history and the moment all combine to suddenly present you with this thing that you made yourself. INT (INAUDIBLE) ....... HF One wrd [[word]] a minute. Did you hear that program that I did with Frank (INAUDIBLE) on WBAR. I sound as though I'm in bed with Joan Mitchell and Bob [[strikethrough]] Boodnow [[/strikethrough]] Goodnow. It's so slow. HF I'm never supposed to look at you, is that right? INT (INAUDIBLE) We have a photograph of you ...... HF Is it (INAUDIBLE)? INT (INAUDIBLE) HF You didn't finish the story? Did you get [[strikethrough]] his [[/strikethrough]] him to finish