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RAPHAEL SOYER - 7 - INTERVIEW 9/3/69

RS: No. No. I think it's just -- I see the world -- I mean, the visible world through my eyes, through my eyes, through myself. I never painted any --------.

SR: Now, I'd like to ask you some questions about the way in which you work. Do you find that there are times that you're, perhaps, more productive than at other times.

RS: No. I think that I'm very systematic and very disciplined and I go to work everyday, in the morning, and I come home in the late afternoon, but everyday.

SR: And you paint all that time?

RS: I paint most of the time, or if I do other things, it pertains to painting. I mean, I make drawings. I may clean the palette, I may wash the brushes. But I mean, it's all within a day's work. It's in my studio. And I haven't any tremendous surges of inspiration or the opposite.

SR: Has it always been this way -- that you've been able to work so systematically.

RS: Well, of course, when you're young, I mean, you're more, you have your ups and downs. You're not settled. And I think that when you're young you daydream more than when you're old. You know, young people daydream a lot. They waste a lot of time, and they have the surges of -- sometimes they work and sometimes they do not. I remember I wasted a lot of time just by dreaming of what I'm going to be and what I'm going to do, rather than to work, when I was young. But that is natural with young people. You also have some kind of grandiose ideas when you're young and you're more apt to become very much depressed when you're young, or very much elated when you're young. But, when you're older, in my case now, that after