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{SPEAKER name="José Andrés"}
I imagine that France had a big influence on you.

{SPEAKER name="Alice Waters"}
It did.

{SPEAKER name="José Andrés"}
I imagine that the life in the streets, those amazing markets— you travelled to Turkey, you were influenced by Turkey.

But you are back in Berkeley and you open that place.

What you dream back in 1971, of what that place could be? And how it differs from what it has become?

{SPEAKER name="Alice Waters"}
Well, I really just wanted a place to eat for myself and my friends. And that's the truth— I still want a place to eat for myself and my friends.

I didn't have any great expectations about it.

I was a disillusioned, very political person coming from Berkeley in the sixties,

and I was teaching school, but I wasn't very successful with the kids, I was very impatient, and,

but I had this idea of a simple place that served real food.

And I didn't know what that was except I had a taste in my mind.

And I still have a taste in my mind of the wild strawberries I ate in France,

The creme fraiche, the oysters on the half-shell, I felt like I had never eaten anything in my whole life.

Not anything. I was just kind of afraid of food

and I just kept it an arm’s length.

But when you go into a culture, and I'm sure it's the culture of Spain back then,
when people, you know,

were engaged in the cooking of food for dinner and lunch for their families and friends

they had — went to simple restaurants to eat

and there were farmers markets everywhere, around every corner, and it seemed

to be just part of a rich, and meaningful life.

and I didn’t know what — I just knew that food was part of that food was part of that sort of big cultural experience

and that's what i wanted to do.

{SPEAKER name="José Andrés"}
Around probably twelve years ago I had the opportunity with my wife to go to Chez Panisse in a train to Napa Valley

I called to make reservation to the restaurant, and obviously they are always full,

but luckily for us, many years later, it was 1980, you opened

Chez Panisse,

{SPEAKER name="Alice Waters"}

{SPEAKER name="José Andrés"}
After 71 you open upstairs, the Chez Panisse cafe.
I ate there with my wife.

How many of you, you’ve been to Chez Panisse?

How many of you in your life?

{SPEAKER name="Alice Waters"}
{SPEAKER name="Alice Waters"}

{SPEAKER name="Alice Waters"}
A lot of them!

{SPEAKER name="José Andrés"}
I went there, we order this Monterrey Baby Squid

{SPEAKER name="Alice Waters"}

{SPEAKER name="José Andrés"}
they were roasted briefly in the wood-burning oven.

I remember we ordered three order — we, we got three orders of those.

And the waiter told us “Sir, we need to leave some for the other people.”


One of the things, as a person, probably as a chef

that taught me, “Come on, that cannot be true!”

And believe me, I didn’t say that in a good way,

is when I ordered the serve, and I get, two clementines in a plate.

and two dates.

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