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(5/2-/81 mtg page 2) 249 BE: talk re article about NY Deaf gang in subways from Deaf America 265 SC asks JG: What is your favorite deaf hero? JG: Laurens Clere, first teacher of the deaf in America. 300 misc. general talk about FAF program, schedule. 420 JG: Festival audience's character will be hard to predict. 431 BE: Using ASL isn't easy when you're talking to hearing people. It's even hard teaching ASL class without getting lost. 450 SC: It's the same with International Sign Language. 454 JME: It's hard for an interpreter to interpret when there are no deaf people in the audience. Experience last week at political debate. 470 JG: Problem talking with hearing people because of lack of eye contact. BE: (475) Trouble coaching hearing H.S. team, getting team attention..."I dont care whether you're interested or not; just look at me!" 509 JR: Is it hard to sign or just to teach ASL with hearing present? BE: Both. T-1, S-2 079 More description of tent and festival. JG: need to mix presentation--humor and fact, humor and fact-- for such an audience. 108 BE: Life story. B. in Tx; JohnMark b. Oklahoma (??); other deaf brother, David [brief interruption ca. 120ff. when Shirley Shull arrived]. [133ff. another break-- Simon tells who FAF participants will be] (148): Bill's story resumes. Became deaf ca. age 2 1/2; mother thought he wasn't paying attention to her. Went to Okla. Sch for Deaf for about 2 years; back to Texas, to school, after John born, started signing when he was 6. Went to ____________ School, then to Gallaudet, graduated 1971; went to work for Govt. as pro-grammer; wife grad. form Gallaudet, works at MSSD. 181 SC to BE: If you're in front of a hearing audience, do you feel sorry for yourself as a deaf person? BE: Sometimes. Story about wanting to play Little League baseball age 11, going to try out, taking John with him; mother drove them down to tryouts. Suddenly Bill "felt deaf," didn't want to face the people. Mother kicked him out of the car. He's gratful.