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Transcription: [00:06:32]
{SPEAKER name="Jefferson Pinder"}
I think that you can't, you can't not be influenced by hip-hop. You know, I can't say that that's all I listen to, that's all I'm interested in.

[00:06:42]
But I can tell you that - it speaks to my generation like no other music. I mean, we define this, we define this music source. And in some ways it's getting commercialized, it's changing.

[00:07:02]
But I think there's still some torch bearers, you know, who are really doing some interesting and innovative work and that's what I'm drawn to.

[00:07:12]
I'm drawn to the artists that are creating work that speaks more toward an experience than individual, selfish desires,
you know, it kind of speaks more toward identity, like my work,

[00:07:33]
and that's what I'm drawn to. I'm not an expert, I wish I was. I'm an artist. But I feel that this is our heart beat, this is the tempo, of our generation. And just as a doctor has to feel something out,

[00:07:53]
I feel like I had to put my finger on this pulse. I might not be intimate of all the actions that are going on, but I can feel the pulse.

[00:08:01]
And I use that, that pulse, and I use it almost formally. But for my work, it's coming from a point of view that aesthetically it's working so well with who we are as a people.

[00:08:22]
And you don't have to be a genius to figure that out, just turn on a TV set, go to a movie, listen to the music that's played, and you look at the billboards,

[00:08:33]
and ask kids, 7th, 8th graders what they're listening to and what they like. You know, and I think they like it because I think it's connected to something that's a little bit more real.

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This could use more time stamps. Try to aim for a maximum of two lines of text on the screen at any given time. Thanks! - Emily, TC team Took out several of the "Um"s and "You Know"s Corrected some spelling and added a few time stamps. Also fixed some incorrect transcription.