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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
My Name is Dave, David Reck. I'm from Baltimore. Been painting 15, 20 years.
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{SPEAKER name="Tim Conlon"}
Tim Conlon, I write Con, been writing about 15 years.
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{SPEAKER name="Benjamin Bloom"}
Do you remember the, uh, the first time that you did a piece?
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
Uh, yeah it wasn't pretty. One of the-- one of the early ones, I got a place I can go and it's still there, and it's funny to see it.
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
It's this, tucked away in some woods on the side of a highway, that's still there, and I haven't been there in a long time.
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
But, uh, you know. It, it wasn't a pretty thing. Actually, it was one of the first times we took a magazine.
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
It was a book that came out. It was called, "Subway Art", and there was a piece in there and it said "Repel".
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
And at the time, I didn't really know nothing about graffiti. I was like, I said, I was maybe 14 at the time.
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
We went up on a shopping center in broad daylight and we kinda just bit right out the book; this Repel outline, me and a buddy of mine.
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
trying to duplicate it, you know. I didn't know. I was like hey, we're doing graffiti. You know, it's all day time. Didn't know that you're supposed to sneak out at night and be all discrete and ninja-like.
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
But, you know, that was probably one of the first times that I ever did anything like that.
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
And, behind my grandmother's old shed.
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[[Laughter by both men]]
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
Which still has something on it now.
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{SPEAKER name="Benjamin Bloom"}
That was your first spot?
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
[[Laughter]] Yeah, that was the first spot I took. Behind my grandmother's shed.
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
And behind the shopping center of Safeway.
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{SPEAKER name="Benjamin Bloom"}
Is that still there, or is that gone?
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
No, that's gone. The shed's still there.
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{SPEAKER name="Benjamin Bloom"}
About how old were you?
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
Ah, like, maybe 4. By that time, 13. I was just runnin' around with little markers in the daytime. Maybe 13, going on 14, behind the shopping center.
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
Um, and then probably when I was about 16, and I'm-- I'm not quotin' the years, probably late 80's, 87, 88, 89,
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
maybe's when I was finally started really looking bigger. I only do it at night; and connecting the dots. And then it was probably not 'till 88, 89, when I really got into letter structure.
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
And I actually had a friend of mine that said, "Hey man, can you do me a alphabet?" I didn't know any better. "Like do me like 3 A's and B's and so forth."
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And so, I just started putting that together, like, and so I originally wrote "A-R-A".
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
But in Borramose at the time, it was like, oh, if you had an "E" it was kinda cool, and then have a "K", or an "R", you could really, like-- your tag could really get funky with your ending of the letter.
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{SPEAKER name="Dave Hupp"}
So I added a K to it. So I, you know, I say, "Erek, Erick, or I guess technically it would be R K, but that's how that came about.
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{SPEAKER name="Benjamin Bloom"}
And what about you Tim? About when did you do your first piece, and like about how old were you?
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{SPEAKER name="Tim Conlon"}
Um, I think I was probably-- It probably was, maybe a year or two after I actually started painting because, uh, I wasn't really comfortable doing, you know, pieces.
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{SPEAKER name="Tim Conlon"}
I was doing a lot of characters, while my friend Super and Resk, those were my other two partners at the time, they were doing pieces.
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{SPEAKER name="Tim Conlon"}
But we were mostly just out street bombing; getting our names out there and stuff like that, so.
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{SPEAKER name="Tim Conlon"}
We weren't really focused at the time too much on doing pieces.
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{SPEAKER name="Benjamin Bloom"}
So, when did you start with "Con"? When did you start doing that?
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{SPEAKER name="Tim Conlon"}
Uh, that's the first thing-- that's the first thing I wrote. It's just a short nickname for my last name that my friends called me forever.
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{SPEAKER name="Tim Conlon"}
So, you know, just seemed the easiest thing to do. I think I wrote, "Defcon" for awhile too, but uh-- yeah just stuck with "Con" 'cause three letters-- easy to do.
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Transcription Notes:
Dave's last name seems different from the audio than what is in the shortcuts list. Note "Borramose" is a placeholder as I am unsure of the location he is referring to, and is typing as it sounds. Same goes for the two names of the partners. Initial Listen through transcription: They were doing pieces Just street Getting our names out there We weren't focused too much on doing pieces. So when did you start with Con? That's the first thing I wrote Just short nickname for my last that my friends called me forever I think I wrote DefCon for awhile too. But just stuck with Con because it was three letters and easy to do.