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...Yes, now we come to that.

...Yow. No, the next place I went to, I went to New Orleans, which was about 1941, and I got a job teaching there at Dillard University in New Orleans. I stayed there for about a year. And by this time, I was also married to a woman from Washington, who was quite an artist. She was a tremendous artist. She was a sculptor primarily. Elizabeth Catlett. She now is the head of the Sculpture Department, I think at the University of Mexico. But she was teaching at Dillard too.

...No, we had met in Chicago. She had come here and gotten her Masters from Iowa where she studied under Grant Wood. And she came to Chicago and studied art and one summer we met. And then we got married and went to New Orleans, and I was hired there too. So we worked there for about a year. And then I got a Rosenwald scholarship, which was the reason we left Dillard. And we went to New York then and that's where I entered the Art Students Leage and studied graphics under Harry Sternberg.

...He was a great teacher.

...Yow. Part of the project under the scholarship was to do three ______ studies at the art students leage and the rest of the time was to be devoted to doing a mural at some Negro college in the South. And the mural was to depict 

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