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17 Iment UM: Barry stolen from p.19 [[crossed out]] UM: It seems to me that also the artists that you mentioned before who follow the more pure bend, you know [[strikethrough]] like [[/strikethrough]] they are derived from Malevich, Mondrian and Ad Reinhardt, and they adhere, they have an almost moral conscience about their work which I noticed in talking LL: Yes, very moral. But Baxter, say, has absolutely no morals. He's a good man, but he's not a moral man. UM: It is very [[strikethrough]] important [[/strikethrough]] good to oppose Dadaism and Structuralism because these are the 2 main veins in the art of our century. [[crossed out]] LL: I think [[/crossed out]] One of the things that make so-called conceptual art so important now is that after Reinhardt it was [[strikethrough]] im [[/strikethrough]] possible to mix the two. /Tell Barry and Huebler [[strikethrough]] thanks [[/strikethrough]] there's a touch of Dadaism in their work and they'd [[strikethrough]] 'll [[/strikethrough]] probably have a fit, but the fact remains that there is a Dada aspect to it. And there's also a Constructivist attitude. They are mixing the two for the first time in the twentieth century. For the first time the two are to some extent coming together, even though there is this division with artists that come from one end and artists that come from another. Still if you have a show like the one next door, (Bob [[strikethrough]] Fiore [[/strikethrough]] Moms and Nauman)? orsomething, , it's harder to make distinctions on a non-visual basis than it would have been ten years ago. Good work came from such different points. [[/crossed out]] UM: I think that Nauman is very important, [[crossed out]] much more important than Keith Sonnier. [[/crossed out]] [[crossed out]] LL: Yeah, well it's a different kind of... I mean, Nauman has... there are different implications... like Morris. It's annoyed me [[/crossed out]] omit Nauman-Morris? [[left margin note]] ecc assn? keep in more on non-os & turning people as to objects, etc.?[[/left margin note]]