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UM: [[strikethrough]] I shouldn't say that, I know you see a relation, but [[/strikethrough]] What relation do you see between the other arts and what is going on presently in the visual arts? The other arts, take what other you please, the theater, the dance, music or poetry.

LL: [[strikethrough]] Yeah, I think certainly [[/strikethrough]] admittedly the distinctions are breaking down, but I don't think [[strikethrough]] any of those things... I don't think pen [[/strikethrough]] legitimate poetry or the theter has had [[strikethrough]] any [[/strikethrough]] much effect on the visual arts. The visual art [[strikethrough]]s are [[/strikethrough]] is now moving out from itself into areas that hadn't previously been touched upon, the performance media especially, which obviously comes from the anti-form concern with action or process. [[?]]

[[strikethrough]] UM: Do you mean  that visual art is moving away from... [[/strikethrough]]

[[strikethrough]] LL: Yeah; Visual art is [[/strikethrough]] It's moving [[strikethrough]] away from, moving [[/strikethrough]] toward the other media but I don't think the [[strikethrough]] other medai have come into the visual art. [[/strikethrough]] reverse is true. I don't think the visual arts have been particularly influenced by anything in the other media. [[strikethrough]] They're generally just terribly scornful. Ten years ago, I [[crossed-out]] usedto be [[/crossed-out]] was wild about the theater, and I haven't been to the theater for a couple of years now, [[crossed-out]] and [[/crossed-out]] or I have been once or twice, and it's always so fantastically oldpfashioned. It seems so ordinary and dull. [[/strikethrough]] I find [[strikethrough]] that [[/strikethrough]] the art that is into performances far more interesting than anything I've seen in legitimate performance media. And the same [[strikethrough]] thing [[/strikethrough]] with poetry. [[strikethrough]] I haven't read poetry for a hell of a long time. When I do, I'm not particularly interested by it. But [[/strikethrough]] I'd rather read Larry Weiner's [[strikethrough]] book [[/strikethrough]] Stutewich [[?]], which [[strikethrough]] is [[/strikethrough]] are [[?]] in a sense poetry, [[strikethrough]] statement or.... Even when he performs, he executed the work, it [[/strikethrough]]

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