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did, I don't think anybody recognized it. First of all, because women have not, don't, talk to each other in this place, I think there's very little recognition of what she did, but she did something fantastic. The concept of cunt is a concept of a passive organ, and Lee Boutique took that framework of a cunt, cause that's what those images are, and she made them a two-fold image, it's an aggressive image, it's a going-out image and it's a coming-in image, and that's a very profoundly different concept of a woman that your cunt is not a passive hole. And it's not! It expands; it contracts; it tears, it bleeds, it has children, it opens, it close, it comes, it does all kinds of things. It can fuck a cock. But nobody ever thinks about that because our concept is just some passive hole, but that's because we're thought of like that. And all that comes across in a work. For a woman to be able to put out another concept of herself depends upon her being able to see herself independent of the social demands of how she sees herself. But you can see it in Bontique and you can see it in George O' Keefe and you can see it in my work, and you can see it in a lot of writing by a lot of women' you can see it in O'Conner and Carson McCullers, you can see it in Mary McCarthy, and you can see it in Hortense Callisher. It has not just to do with the image of reality, it also has to do with how form is organized. OK? Does that answer your question? 
Q. How did a man-dominated society become so established?
Well I think it was a historical necessity. You see, I think it was a historical necessity for the planet to be tamed. And in that place men have an advantage over women because they're stronger. There was also a historical necessity for a population growth; so women had to have children, that was their main function in life, they had to because the race needed children. Men had to go out in the field because the race had to have the planet tamed for their habitation. But now what we're carrying around is a whole carload of historical baggage that grows out of what was once an historical necessity that no longer is necessary. In fact, we need to reverse all our trends, we have to stop having children; we have to begin to understand that raising children is a very important thing, and we have to begin to devote some energy to raising children in an intelligent way and not raising more children than can be accommodated by the planet; we have to re-define ourselves as men and women; we have to stop exploiting,