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3b Robin intros Karen Bell - Robin + Karen teach physics in schools through eyes of circus - mostly mechanical devices. "Arts Integration" movement in education - Karen speaking about reaction of students to them in makeup coming into schools. Students realize clowning is a job/career/talent. Jeff on mic: there are other venues besides circuses today. Intros Joel. Joel on mic: talking about "New Circus" - more theatrical, telling a story. In Circus Bella - all the acts are part of story of the clown, on a journey. Modern clowning - more human approach - not a lot of makeup - easier to correct with audience. Blend of dance, theater, opera, etc. - 1:12 Jeff: any questions, - audience question on mic - why no makeup in modern circus? Joel answering: to break down mask, make more human - who artists are as people. Jeff: disagrees with Joel - does no makeup/less costume mean more human? anecdote about musical "Carnival" + puppets - tension in theater world - how a mask or puppet can become more animated than a real person. Swing in clowning today towards more natural, he - reacting to spectacle and costumes of groups such as Cirque. Robin: agreeing w/ Jeff- Some swing in tastes/performance in music. Anecdotes about how clowning has changed- clowns a mirror of society and fashion. Jeff to Karen working in schools, what do you get from students that changes what you do? Karen: more bringing kids out of 2-D (tweens) + into 3-D (physics, physical body). Marsha (audience question): how approach illusion when dressing down (low makeup) Joel: describing dinner theater circus show he does - making illusion of clowns being the theater staff. Jeff: how to appeal over virtual reality Joel: connection - working with emotions, sense of wonder that's what will bring people here - not just tricks. Joel demonstrates things he does in dinner theater (Palazzo) show. In audience, holding relationships with audience. (clapping) Jeff: hear, emotion - but skill - aerobatic - Robin: working with a partner- certain things have always worked. dumb guy + smart guy, etc.- Jeff brings up Natasha (of Circus Bella) from audience + Steve (audience member)(clapping). Jeff teaching Steve a routine with Natasha.