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Ringling - $ - end of era but not end of circus- sound/tech. 
L. expensed their operation. here to go small- Europe [[intamm?]] and "classy"- enhanced light/sound- must have passion
->Circus Vitality, Diversity-percalating. now no shadow-
Brother and he did wheel act - first act go to Russia- wanted to go back to USA-how? Roller Skating Act
-open act in Norway, came to Ringling 1998-green card
finished Ringling drove down to Sarasota - now Tent Master
? D. How is life traveling w/family-w/Ringling you travel by train others travel trailer. difficult (home away from home) get to criss cross America- when you travel in Europe you get to stay in hotels, many languages, learn culture.
L. some time you get to stay in hotel, but I love trailer- I have a horses
? Sarasota - abundance of circus families-winter quarters Bridgeport to Sarasota
D. trever trove of incredable artists-list goes on and on rub elbows at market- *Ringling Museum* sacrid ground, years ago you would gather together honor circus family monthly at show folks club- Sarasota is the home of the country. special quaint town full of culture-
L- lots of circus people, after that Spain
? show folks circus - anual event, to raise $ for club-
? Ring of fame- ring of those performers who have had an impact on Circus-
D-St Arma Circle by Lido beach plaque on brass wagon wheel-
? issues w/circus families D- getting mail was the worst-Biggest challenge was the word "Circus". dont understand. so deffending industry- shool? Home?
We all have education besides the books-criss crossing America- such an education
L-perhaps we need a new name- So many schools now- so many newcomers- 
D-side show- yea still people then think we are all all sword swallers-
? special moment w/ family members - D- standing watching Dad perform, then Dad standing and watching me- L Dad was Spanish had such style. Dad winking at the girls. Star qualities-
? star quality handed down- L cheeky way of juggling have it or you don't
D presence in ring to reach people in audience- take them w/ you "walk like a farmer"
Torville Dean- way they performed effortlessly- w/out thinking- as of your power
L- Miss the performing, now seeing from another way. Creativity- audience
? Street performance: Circus art- L-my place is in the ring. D-character than you must have to perform on street $? Character
? Challenges w/ tent placed here in DC- where it goes L Challenge here stakes concrete block
Tent is Italian, well con., well designed for wind 10 yrs old - dust back w Mass Center $ non profit
?Generational families when have you seen change? Serc de Sole uplift
Ringling here employed all of us wasn't what it used to be-times change.