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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
I'm sorry.

{unknown speaker 1}
At what age did he start speaking?
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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
I don't really remember. I think it was around 5.
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{unknown speaker 1}
Later on did he have any problems with oral speech?
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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
I think that he always-- I think that the habit he developed is-- The question is when he start speaking. I think it was around 5. Uhm.
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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
I think that what he did was, he was always very deliberate. I think he always sounded it out.
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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
And I think that there's this notion, almost, that he was shaping the idea.
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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
This is what I think is, again, interesting is the way, you know; thought is a--, speech is a symbol. But Einstein seems to go beyond the symbol
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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
to the conception in the slowness with which he would form the, the sentence forms.
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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
And I think of reports that I've heard is that he always did that.
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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
The other thing about him was, although he, he could understand and learned English, he essentially, I think, always thought and spoke in German.
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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
I mean, he, he's an element of the root-- And this goes back to his self sufficiency.
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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
He's a very rootless, stateless person. But the element where he-- Germany,-- in German was how he thought.
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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
Once he had the habit, I think he stayed with it.
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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
And he was one of those people apparently you could almost see him think. He, he, he used to, when he was working in the 30s at the institute where he and his two sort of collaborators,
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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
who were helping him, they'd be stuck with a little, a problem and Einstein would say to them in English, "Well, I'll have a little think."
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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
And he'd sort of walk back and forth, and literally, you could almost see, you know, I'm sure they romanticized it a bit, but you could see him sort of working his way through, almost like a machine.
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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
It, and it, it-- you know. Ultimately genius, I think is inexplicable. But the fact that Einstein always rejected authority, at the same time, though, he craved it, is the dialectic in which he worked.
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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
I mean he wanted, he wanted things to be whole, but he wanted himself to be an individual. I like the notion, for instance, that he's kind of a one-world government guy,
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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
but he's the most ornery individual around. And in a one-world government would, would, you know, would, you know, "round hole, round peg," and it wouldn't have worked for him, of course.

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{unknown speaker 1}
Thank you very much for coming, everyone. And especially you, Dave. Once again.

[[Audience clapping, murmuring]]

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{SPEAKER name="David C. Ward"}
Thank you.

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