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{SPEAKER name="Rayna Green"}
Oh, yes. When we asked Julia for the kitchen, and that is exactly how that happened; I saw an article in the New York Times saying she was gonna
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leave and go back to Santa Barbara and I picked up the phone and called her and said, "Um, Julia, can we have your kitchen?" And (Laughing)
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Sort of, I mean, sort of happened like that. And uh we knew her, we're foodies and we hang around foodie crowds, and we knew her. And uh she has a soft spot for the Smithsonian by the way.
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She and Dylan Ripley, uh Dylan and Mary Ripley--our old secretary and his wife, were in Silan in the OSS together, so she had a real sort of a soft spot for the Smithsonian.
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So we kind of felt we could ask these strange questions and uh before literally other museum people had the same idea and before we got to her for the whole kitchen. Uh some friends in California who were developing copias
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in a new museum out there, ask her for that signature wall of pots and pans, and so we packed it up and sent it to them. When we did that they kept it out there for several years and then last year they went bankrupt,
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and uh and um because she had loaned them the pots and pans, they um, they returned them legally to her family in trust, and they in turn said "We know where they belong",
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and we worked with her family for years now and brought them back to us. So yes, now we have the actual wall, but it provided such a good viewing wall that we didn't want to put the pans back where they were and close off that view so we just made a separate place for them.
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But uh this sort of thing happens all the time; people call us up and say, "You know I gave Julia that fish mold that's in the kitchen".
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So we get another story from those people, and I uh I called David Marlin, the photographer here, to talk to him about this portrait.
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I wanted to know the circumstances under which he took it and what he remembers and if there are any more shots and it's wonderful to keep collecting in that sense but collecting actually the-

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