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I think that's generally true, Owen, however, I also think the Internal Revenue is anxious for all these trust periods to terminate, in order to realize tax revenues. And there may have been some political influence brought to bear at the White House in this regard. Question: There is a question on the distinction between being a ward of the government and a citizen of the government. The Indians themselves weren't allowed to vote, as wards of the government. If an Indian is a ward of the Govern-ment, does that not make him himself exempt from taxes? No, that does not have anything to do with his tax situation except in so far as he is the holder of an allotment. Trust status land. Mr. President, it is now nearly 4:30, and I know that on behalf of all of us we want to thank all of you for the interest you have shown, and we want to apologize for not being able to say yes or no to every question you have given us. If there is any question that any of you have after this meeting, and think of it later, catch any of us in the hall and we'll do what we can to answer them for you. Thank you very much. Before the Attorneys get off stage too far (this is President Garry) what was that question you wanted to ask, Mr. Fyer, relative to the status of ? Another Question: (Not clear in background, something about a ward of the Government) The word "ward" is almost meaningless when applied to Indians. The courts have called them wards of the father of government simply as a convenient way of analogizing the status of Indians, which, to be sure, is quite complex and quite cloudy with the existing law that they already have. Guardian and ward exists in our ordinary law. Many of you are parents and are the guardians of your children. Your children are wards. The word "ward" used with the respect to Indians doesn't mean the same thing. You are not the responsibility of the Federal Government in the same way that your child is your responsibility. It doesn't mean that the Federal Government would provide you with houseing, clothing, and food. You know that all too well. Now, on the other hand, so called is not in-