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1861 Sept 30th Mon. Winter when opposite Ni-oun-te-lik (as I was about to return from the sledge journey [[underlined]] commenced [[/underlined]] to the head of Frobisher Bay) they said that they had never seen any pieces of Brick so large - that they had often seen little pieces all the same material & in appearance on Kod-lu-nar Island - on digging up the rocks & sand there. Most of the specimens of Brick & Tile wh. I have was thus found. They had often seen the coal on the Island Ni-oun-te-lik & the Coal up the little Bay at Ar-Keil-e-zung - where I found & obtained Coal Monday Sept. 23d. They had seen "heavy stone", all the same as I showed them, at Kus-se-geen-ark-ju-an the Cape 1/2 mile N. of Kod-lu-nar the E. termination of grass plain. Never had seen iron at Kod-lu-nar. Nood-loo-ong said she had seen a heavy stone on Kus-se-geer-ark-ju-a not so large as either of the specimens I showed her, but [[underlined]] much heavier! [[/underlined]] This makes me think that Nood-loo-ong has seen lead - Bar-lead of Frobisher's Expedition. On Asking them where these things [[end page]] [[start page]] 1861 Sept 30th Mon came from? they replied: 'Kod-lu-nars brought them there. Then I asked if they saw them? They answered with wide opened eyes - countenances of surprise - 'Ar-gi! Ar-gi!' On asking them how they knew these things were brought there by Kod-lu-nars they responded: 'All the old Innuits said so - the 1st Innuits who saw them (the Kod-lu-nars) were all dead [[?amasu]]-ad-loo (a great many) years ago. Capt. B. was present during this interview & assisted much in drawing out of them (A. & N.) the information pertaining to this important subject. I intend soon to have interviews with these same parties again, (An-na-wa & Noo-loo-ong) using Tuk-oo-li-too as interpreter. By her assistance I may glean much additional important information. Three Whales were seen this morning by the Innuits - but the wind has continued too strong the day long for the Boats to venture out.