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(4 1861 Oct. 2d Wedns a great deal of Wood - large pieces - was left by the Kod-lu-narns on the Island Kod-lu-narr. She said Kod-lu-narrs lived there & dug a deep place in the rocks close by tarrio (sea water) where they built a ship. When they had built the ship, away they went - but it was very cold & there was a great deal of ice - they came back again [[underlined]] with the ice [[/underlined]] - very cold - the Innuits built them (the Kod-lu-narrs) snow-houses. Some died with the cold - & the rest she did not [[underlined]] terrapoo [[/underlined]] (did not hear the Innuits say what come of them). I showed her pieces of brick. She said she had seen the same on Kod-lu-narr but [[underlined]] at no other place. [[/underlined]] Saw the "Heavy Stone" at Kus-se-geer-ark-ju-a one year ago. She had never seen any [[[underlined]] soft [[/underlined]] "Heavy Stone" all [[underlined]] hard & rough [[/underlined]] same as I showed her. [[[underlined]] All had been brought there by Kod-lu-narrs. [[/underlined]] I am confident I can gain much more of the [[underlined]] particulars [[/underlined]] by using Tuk-oo-li-too as interpreter. This P.M. I intend going ashore & taking some of the oldest & best informed Innuits - one by one - to the Tupik of Tuk-oo-li-too & there with her having "talks" - [[underlined]] long talks! [[/underlined]] My written questions are all numbered - as I get answers to them - [[underlined]] & as interpreted [[/underlined]] - I will reduce the same to [[underlined]] black [[/underlined]] & white. After getting through my interviews with the various Innuits I make them presents - a 'hand of tobacco' - pipe - or needles - or [[?Supungers]] (beads) [[end page]] [[start page]] (5 1861 Oct 2d Wedns. Many of the Innuits I have conferred with have never seen a piece of Brick as large as the piece I obtained of an Innuit last Winter when about to return to the vessel on coming to the return Point near Twer-puk-ju-a a short distance from Ni-oun-te-lik. They describe the pieces that they have seen as being [[underlined]] Mik-e-ouk-oo-loo [[/underlined]] (small) & on the Island Kod-lu-narn. I did find a [[underlined]] very few [[/underlined]] of [[[underlined]] very small pieces [[/underlined]] of brick, or tile, among the coals in deposite No1 (the bed 1st found). These pieces I keep distinct from all others. "Blind George" (when he had his sight) says that he saw a few small pieces at a place where he went Took-tooing - I believe at Kussegeerarkjua. After Dinner, in Company of a Boat load of Innuits (men, women & children) & several Kod-lu-nars of the G.H., among the latter was Mate Lamb, I proceeded to the place of tupiks ashore. Shev-ek-koo & his wife Oo-shoo-tar-ping at my request went with me to tupik of Tuk-oo-li-too who was my interpreter to the questions -
