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Private Journal
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1861 Dec. 10 Tues

many questions relative to White men living near Oo-pung-ne-wing & building a ship.  I told T. I wished her to be very careful & not say any thing to the old Innuit except asking the questions I wished.  I told her to caution Koo-ou-le-arny about saying any thing during the conversation between me & the old Innuit.  I first asked the Question

Did you ever hear of a place called Kod-lu-narn?
Ans. = "I Have - it is a small Island near Oo-pung-ne-wing.'

Why is it called "Kod-lu-narn"?
'Because white men live there - & build Oo-mi-ark-chu-a'.

Did you see the Kod-lu-narns who lived on Kod-lu-narn & built ship there?  Raising up his eyes with wonderment pictured in them he said
'Ar-gi!  It was a long time ago - before he was born.  He did not know anything about it but what his old father & mother told him.'

I then told Tuk-oo-li-too to ask him how Kod-lu-narn's could build an Oo-mi-ark chu-a here in Innuit country when trees do not grow here,

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Private Journal
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1861 Dec. 10th Tues.

is no wood - no iron - no any thing with which to build ship.  I furthermore told her to tell him that it sounded very strange to me to hear about building ship here?
Tuk-oo-li-too smiled - & then done as I requested.  Old Innuit smiled also - & then proceeded to explain how it was.
Said the ship was built out of material brought here - or rather at Kod-lu-narn - by the Kod-lu-narns.

I then asked.  If there were any things on Kod-lu-narn [[underlined]] now [[/underlined]] that the Kod-lu-narns who built the ship left there?
Old Innuit answered -
Ans = 'Ar-me-larny, - [[underlined]] amasuadloo' [[/underlined]] (yes, a great many)

What were they?
Ans. = [[underlined]] 'Little red pieces - of something [[/underlined]] - he did not know what they were!

Anything else?
'Yes, little Black pieces - [[underlined]] a great many [[/underlined]] - he didn't know what they were for Nothing like them in the Innuit Country - not on Kod-lu-narn but Ni-oun-te-lik these black things were.

I then asked if he had seen anything else? - at 1st he said he had not.  On requesting to think a while He said he had seen "heavy stone" - 1 small one at Tik-Koon - one heavy one - he did not remember where but thought it was on Oo-pung-ne-wing.  The latter he saw 4 years ago.  Said that Innuits used to try their strength in lifing it, he could lift it high as his knees but no further.  

I then asked old Innuit if the Kod-lu-narns left any wood on Kod-lu-narn when they went away with the ship he said they did - good many long pieces.

I asked him if any body could see the place where white men built the ship