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10 and that he had named it [[underlined]] Oxybelis manni [[/underlined]]. So you can imagine what a thrill that was for a kid just starting out. HENSON: That was the first species that got named for him, right? MANN: Yes, that was the first thing that was named for him. HENSON: And he was still in undergraduate school. MANN: I have that letter still. HENSON: You do have that letter? MANN: Yes, you can put it in the archives. HENSON: Yes. You knew Dr. [John Enos] Graf at entomology. What was he doing there then? MANN: What was his specialty? It wasn't ants. I'm sorry, I've forgotten what his specialty was because he didn't really stay with it awfully long; he went into administrative work. [truck crop insects] HENSON: Now, he may even have been in administrative work at that point. Was he in Washington all the time? MANN: Yes. HENSON: He wasn't out in the field as much? MANN: Dr. Mann was theoretically six months in the tropics and then six months here identifying his collections.