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54 MANN: Oh, yes, that painting was done by Stephen Haweis, who died not long ago in Dominica, at the age of about ninety-six. He started out as a painter of fishes. We have some of his fish paintings. He was on the Chrysler expedition with Bill, went along as artist. He was an artist and there was a movie man (Charles Charlton was the movie-man from [[underlined]] Pathe Review [[/underlined]]) on the expedition. [Laughter] HENSON: Okay, and that's his painting right there. MANN: That African scene is his. HENSON: I guess you had a fair run of people like that wandering through all the time? MANN: Yes. HENSON: How soon after you got married did you start going to circuses? Or was it before? MANN: Oh, immediately. Bill had always been crazy about circuses. When a circus came to Washington we went to every performance, even if they stayed three weeks, we'd see the show twenty-one times. HENSON: Every performance? MANN: Every performance. Not always afternoon and evening every day, but we'd go every day. We'd go out to a dinner party, and Bill would begin telling circus stories about whatever small show was in town and get people interested, and they'd begin looking at their