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[[centered]] 55 [[/centered]] watches, "Oh, let's go out, the show won't be over yet." So we'd go out. Sometimes we'd miss the first few acts, but we got to know all the circus people. One of the named a child after me, named it Lucy. Of course, my name is Lucile, but everybody calls me Lucy. I got to ride an elephant once in "spec." I went all the way around the hippodrome track. Many years later I rode an elephant in Nepal, but I wasn't astride the elephant in Nepal, I was riding in a howdah. That was a thrill too. HENSON: There were a fair amount of animals staying at the zoo sometimes? Circus animals during the winter season would be boarded? MANN: That was way before my time, but the Adams Forpaugh show wintered quite a collection here. One of them was a Sumatran rhinoceros, which is a very, very rare animal. I'm sure it's completely extinct now. But the zoo actually had a Sumatran rhino here during the winter. HENSON: I noticed in much later years, around the time that you retired, a new set of rhinoceroses came to the zoo, and they were named Willy and Lucy. Do you remember that? MANN: Oh, yes, those were the white rhinos. That was shortly before Bill retired. HENSON: Did you choose to have those as your namesake? [Laughter]